Change Toggle to Momentary? - Bome Forums Archive 2005

DannyCaine

2014-02-24 01:40:38

Is this possible? All I can find is information on how to change a momentary button to a toggle button. I know how to do that. It makes perfect sense. I just can't seem to wrap my head around doing it the other way.

I'm using ACP40 and 20 for lighting control. Above some faders, which I am using for intensity, I would like to assign the buttons directly above these faders as a flash button... but they are toggle buttons. I can't figure out how to get around this.
Thanks!

DvlsAdvct

2014-02-24 20:01:12

When you connect the APC40 to your computer, the buttons do not send an off message? Check through the Log Window.

DannyCaine

2014-02-25 00:03:32

Many of the buttons are momentary, but the 24 buttons above the faders ("Activator" Solo/Cue" "Record Arm") are toggle. With a press and release I get one ON signal and the second press and release I get one OFF signal.

DvlsAdvct

2014-02-25 00:50:57

Hi Danny

You may need to put the APC40 in Ableton Live Mode. To do this create a translator that reads as follows:

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Translator 1: Mode on Load
Incoming Message: Special On Project Load
Outgoing Message: F0 47 00 73 60 00 04 41 08 01 01 F7

When you start the Project the APC40 should go into its Ableton Live mode and all buttons should be momentary. Let me know if that works.

DannyCaine

2014-02-25 02:20:35

Yup. That did it for the APC40, but not the APC20. I have the outgoing signal "on specific" to both the 40 and the 20 ports.
Do you know if there is a different midi command for it? The APC20 manual isn't much help.
I don't know what part of the command to change... Device ID?

DvlsAdvct

2014-02-25 02:36:21

There doesn't seem to be as much information about the APC20, unfortunately. Let me hit up some of my contacts at InMusic and see what I can find out.

Thanks
Jared

DvlsAdvct

2014-02-25 17:08:47

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Translator 1: Mode on Load
Incoming Message: Special On Project Load
Outgoing Message: F0 47 7F 7B 60 00 04 41 08 02 01 F7

That should communicate the Ableton mode to the APC20

Let me know if there's an issue.

DannyCaine

2014-02-25 23:34:50

Yes! Thank you so much.
I owe you a drink Jared.

DvlsAdvct

2014-02-26 00:33:54

Glad to see it is working. If you have any other questions let me know.

And if only you could ship drinks through the internets.

Enjoy!
Jared

redirishman

2015-10-09 21:37:41

Hey DannyCain, sorry I can't help you with your goal, but I'm hoping you could help me convert a momentary to toggle. You said it was easy, but I'm a stupid man.

The midi values coming in are: 93 51 7F (note on), and 83 51 7F (note off).

How would I setup the variable? What rules would I use? And what are the outgoing settings?

I'd be very grateful if you could help me on this.

DannyCaine

2015-10-15 08:21:28

Hey redirishman,
Sorry for the late response. I see you got your answer though.

Pædagokken

2017-02-01 21:45:45

DvlsAdvct wrote:
Code: Select all
Translator 1: Mode on Load
Incoming Message: Special On Project Load
Outgoing Message: F0 47 7F 7B 60 00 04 41 08 02 01 F7
That should communicate the Ableton mode to the APC20

Let me know if there's an issue.

Hi DvlsAdvct I'm sitting in the same issue now, I'm using an APC40mk2 tho' and I know how to send the messages, but I'm having trouble getting it to work, you think I need a different code too?