Encoder problem

Hey!

I'm encountering a headache with encoders
I'd like to solve this without changing the way the controller's firmware is mapped.

No matter which encoder I press, it will send the midi message of all 4 encoders:

Midi sent when pressing encoder in, and when pressing it out
Encoder 1 (Ch.01.CC.48) is sending Ch.01.CC.48 value 0, Ch.01.CC.51 value 0, Ch.01.CC.54 value 0, Ch.01.CC.57 value 0
Encoder 2 (Ch.01.CC.51) is sending Ch.01.CC.48 value 0, Ch.01.CC.51 value 0, Ch.01.CC.54 value 0, Ch.01.CC.57 value 0
Encoder 3 (Ch.01.CC.54) is sending Ch.01.CC.48 value 0, Ch.01.CC.51 value 0, Ch.01.CC.54 value 0, Ch.01.CC.57 value 0
Encoder 4 (Ch.01.CC.57) is sending Ch.01.CC.48 value 0, Ch.01.CC.51 value 0, Ch.01.CC.54 value 0, Ch.01.CC.57 value 0

Problem is, I'd like to outgo a preset deactivation when I press any of the encoders 1-2-3, and a preset activation when I press encoder 4.

Is there a way around? I've spend hours on this one I'd need an outside opinion

If each encoder is indeed sending the same message, there will be no way for any midi equipment to distinguish between them.

Is it not possible, to program the encoders new?
It would be nice, if we would know, which typ of encoder you use
(model-name). Most encoders (Behringer, Novation and many others.......)can be reprogrammed
by her own editor-software or directly on the machine.

HG

hgpa wrote:Is it not possible, to program the encoders new?
It would be nice, if we would know, which typ of encoder you use
(model-name). Most encoders (Behringer, Novation and many others.......)can be reprogrammed
by her own editor-software or directly on the machine.

HG

I'm using a livid CNTRL:R which has a editor-software.
The thing is I'm also using a max for live device mapped specially for this controller and I don't want to mess it up as it happened to me before.

sjcaldwell wrote:If each encoder is indeed sending the same message, there will be no way for any midi equipment to distinguish between them.

if each encoder is sending 4 control change messages, it looks to me like a bug, or a strange feature. Does it send MIDI messages when touching/untouching the encoders?
Otherwise, I'd contact the Livid guys.

florian wrote:if each encoder is sending 4 control change messages, it looks to me like a bug, or a strange feature. Does it send MIDI messages when touching/untouching the encoders?
Otherwise, I'd contact the Livid guys.

Yeah pretty weird but thoses encoders are mapped to be banks in the firmware. I contacted Livid already...
When turning the encoder it sends only 1 message: the actual CC number and it's velocity. Thats why I finally use it to change my own banks.

Since all the encoders send CC 48/51/54/57 of value 0, I mapped the encoder CC57 to take a value of 126 with a short delay.
And then a rule that activates my banks preset when value=127. (so that I dont have to turn the encoder all the way from 0 to 127, just from 126 to 127
Value <126 disables the presets.
I'm fine with it working like that, of course I'd prefer the encoder press but IDC

Thats messing up a bit the macro knobs but that seems to be fine for now, I'll run some more tests to be sure it's reliable

Hi trabz, would you mind posting your project file? Would be great for other CNTRL:R owners!